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storm from doing basically the same thing to the community, just flooding us, possibly killing us. a blizzard in the northeast. brings just about everything to a stand still and one family's attempt to dig out takes a terrible turn. the latest on the man hunt for a suspected cop killer. >> every officer in this department is a little bit paranoid. >> he vows to keep on killing until his demands are met. >> this is a very sick individual. i give no credence whatsoever to anything this man says. >> plus the spies in the sky. drones overseas and over your neighborhood.
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>> good evening, i'm brianna keilar, in for don lemon. more on the blizzard in the northeast. first, a development. >> chief beck has directed that the police department reopen the investigation, >> they are re-opening the allegations that officer dorner made while in the department, those allegations that resulted in him being terminated. >> dorner has been the object of an intense man hunt after allegedly killing three people this week. the killing spree began last sunday south of los angeles. people say he shot and killed two people sitting in a car, one the daughter of a former l.a. p.d. police officer and then dorner went to san diego a couple days able to get on the naval base there. his wallet was later found at the san diego airport. early thursday about 1:00 in the morning, he allegedly shot a police officer in corona. about 30 minutes later two more
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cops were shot in riverside and one later died. two hours later dorner's truck was found in big bear lake near the san bernardino mountains. from there, the trail went cold early with fresh snow in the mountains. casey joining us. re-opening the investigation about dorner's firing. this is a major development. so why are they doing it? >> reporter: there's a couple of significant developments that happened tonight. i first want to talk about this investigation going on. the formation of a joint task force among several law enforcement agencies in southern california to try to catch dorner. up until now individual law enforcement agencies have been investigating the crimes he committed in their jurisdiction and now joining forces to investigate this case together. here's what the assistant chief of the river-side police department had to say about that strategy. >> we're coming together today to catch mr. dorner.
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what that means is we will look under every rock, we will look around every corner and search mountaintops for him. the riverside police department is pledging every resource to this effort. >> reporter: now back to what led to the firing of christopher dorner in 2007 from the los angeles police department, charlie beck the chief of the l.a. p.d. had to say about that, said i do this not to apease a murderer, i do it to reassure the public their police department is fair and transparent in all things that we do. i asked an l.a. p.d. commander if he believes this may lead dorner to turn himself in. here's what he had to say. >> we're all hoping dorner will turn himself in. the chief made a plea to dorner to turn himself in. that would lead to the best resolution. no one else has to be shot or
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injured and no one else has to die. he can turn himself in anywhere and taken into custody and get his side of the story out. >> reporter: bottom line, authorities are searching hard and they don't know where dorner is right now. >> that is the question everyone wants an answer to. thanks for that. we know it's supposed to be cold in february but this blizzard earned the respect of even life-long residents of massachusetts, connecticut and new york state. folks used to cold weather. right now about half million homes have no power new england in the dead of winter and more cars stranded on long island than rescue trucks to rescue them. eight people died in traffic
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accidents even though they were told not to drive. a family is mourning the death of their 14-year-old son after a tragically common winter accident. jason carroll has details for us. >> reporter: when i think about this story i think about how many people i saw today in this neighborhood who came out to dig out their cars exactly what a father and son did, came out to dig out their car buried in snow. the father was able to get the passenger side free of snow and his son got cold, like so many children do when the weather is like this, got inside the car, shut the door in there about 10, 15 minutes. unbeknownst to the father, the tailpipe of the car was clogged with snow and the young boy because the car was running, was poisoned by carbon monoxide. at one point, octavious, a firefighter who lives in the neighborhood heard screams, came to see what was going on, saw the father was overcome trying
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to give him some aid and looked over to see a 25-year-old woman who is a nurse who happened to live in the neighborhood was giving the young boy cpr and he then describes what he saw next. >> ems and fire were coming out with the boy at this point. around this point i got a good look at his face. eyes were rolled back in his head. i've seen that look before. >> reporter: paramedics were able to get to the young boy almost immediately but unfortunately not able to revive him. the boy was declared dead a short time later. the governor weighing in on this issue and boston's mayor saying the news of this tragic accident is a sad reminder the danger of the storm is not over. our hearts go out to that family and their friends learning of this tremendously sad accident. it's another reminder you heard the mayor say just because the storm has passed there are hidden dangers that still exist.
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>> jason carroll in boston. i want to bring general russel honore in here now. you're our expert when it comes to disaster response and aftermath. before we talk to people without power tonight, what about this tragic carbon monoxide accident in boston? it seemed to me when i heard about it that could have happened to almost anyone. >> brianna in the army we have a word for this carbon monoxide, we call it the silent killer. for years we unfortunately lost soldiers throughout the history of our army to this silent killer. it's unfortunate this happened to this child. hopefully it will be the last one because people will pay attention and make sure to take all precautions to make sure when they're warming, particularly with open flames or with heaters, that there is a fresh air coming into the room. hopefully this is the last one
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and hopefully we all learn from this tragic death. >> can you talk a little specifically about that? we have about a half million people without electricity in new england. what are those specific precautions they need to take? >> normally it happens when people get cold and people start getting symptoms of another killer, called hypothermia, where the body temperature cools it cannot replace the heat it is losing. this is where people want to pay attention. if you start to shiver or someone in your group or family group -- why in the army we train people to stay together when you're trying to survive a cold event like this -- if you see someone shivering, see they become mentally confused, you must immediately seek medical help for them and try to get them as warm as you can because they're about to go into what we call hypothermia where the bodily temperature can't replace
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the heat and that is as deadly as carbon monoxide poisoning. again, the blizzard the people can survive, the after continuous cold, particularly when you lose power or lose your source of heat. solution, stay together, look for anyone that is having signs of shivering or mental confusion. that means they're going into hypothermia. whenever there's a heat source, make sure it's well ventilated and stay in buddies together, nobody should be alone. >> and realize it can happen to you. i think that's also part of the key there. i want to ask you, do you think the cities and small towns prepared properly for this blizzard?
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even though there's been accidents. the number seems very low compared to 1978 where we saw a death toll of about 100. >> absolutely. it's obvious many lessons learned and technology applied. the government, particularly the northeast is very sensitive with these large populations but still come up to people doing the right thing and staying informed and listen to what the government is saying. i think based on the conditions they've done a good job keeping the public informed. now we need to look out for one another. neighbors check on neighbors. if you know somebody in the region, call them and make sure they're okay. as in the case in katrina and many other disasters, most people that lost their lives, they died alone. now is the time to check on your neighbors and elderly people and people with disabilities and make sure they're okay. >> maybe that neighbor you don't know down the street, maybe you should check on him or her. general russel honore, great words of wisdom. >> and help the red cross. >> that's right. thank you, general. he's the most wanted man in america.
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this investigation, which is years old. this is something dorner said is the reason why he's on this rampage. i'm wondering what's the reason for lapd doing this? is this to draw him out and how much is this to do with the transparency they said they have with a some what troubled police department historically and making sure people believe they have a leg to stand on here? >> hi, brianna. i think that's exactly right. they want to give him a chance to maybe go ahead and come out of hiding and come out from being a fugitive and get his time to expose the wrongs lapd did to him in his mind. in his manifesto, he made it clear he's seeking revenge because of corruption and injustice he believes has been rained down on him from l.a. police department. by doing this and saying they'll reopen the case, obviously he's
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still wanted for the murders he's committed and all the other actions that occurred but it would give him an opportunity to have his hearing covered by worldwide media and give it the exposure he's trying to get in this case, committing all these murders. >> you think the lapd would really see this review through to try to be sure they said -- that he lied about something, several years back. you think they would see this review through to be sure that they got it right or to check if maybe they got it wrong? >> i think they would. i think when a promise is made by a government agency or in this case, los angeles police department, they don't want to break their word with him if he surrenders because of all the future cases they'll need to have people take their word. i think if he was to surrender and end this siege right now, i think they'd be more than willing to go through with it and have a new hearing and probably have the media coverage he's been wanting in that
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hearing. that won't exonerate him for the murders he committed and attempted murders. at least that would be, in his mind, what they're hoping, a step in the right direction to expose the wrong he feels has been done to him. >> very interesting. we'll have to see if this affects things and if we find out where chris dorner is. former fbi director, thanks for taking the time. >> thank you. synthetic marijuana, cheap, easy to find and often advertised as an illegal alternative to pot. its side effects may be lethal. next, you will meet a family who lost their son this dangerous drug. and help restore even color. olay professional even skin tone. i'm here to pick up some cacti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for small business.
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it's often called fake pot
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and often advertised as being legal and sold in stores as spice and k2 but actually not marijuana. a hand full of herbs sprayed with chemicals and teenagers consider it a cheap way to get high without going in search of real marijuana. it can also be deadly. chase was an honors student and soccer player in suburban atlanta was found dead in his family's hot tub almost a year ago, a package of synthetic pot found nearby. he was just 16 years old and his parents, david and yvette join us now. thank you for joining us now. i know this is a difficult one and you are here so this doesn't happen to other kids. tell me a little bit about chase. what was he like? >> he was a joy to be around. he would walk in a room and make everybody feel like you've always known him. feel comfortable. he had an inner light about him and he lived life with a zest and lived everyday like it would be his last.
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he had an inner light about him. people were attracted to that, older peers and younger children. we know he had an inner light because of how he lived and love he shared with family and friends and had that inner light from god within him. >> i know he was beloved by friends and people he went to school with and teachers and something that really devastated people when he passed away last march. did you have any sense? did you know he was trying this out, this fake pot? did you even know what it was? >> i was not aware he was trying it out. i was aware what it was. i had no idea he had experimented with it a hand full of times, we found out the day he passed away he had experimented with it a hand full of times. >> that was from his friends? >> i found out from some friends that came over that morning and we had 10 or so friends over a week after he passed away and i had them all sit down on our
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couch at our home and ask them to come clean with what was going on in the community and who was doing it so we could nurture them and explain to them bad choices have deadly consequences. >> what did you find out? a lot of kids were doing it? it wasn't just chase? >> there were several doing it in the community. i can say that. it has curtailed, the activity within the community, within the children, it has stopped. there is a little bit of misnomer chase drowned in a hot tub. obviously, we found him in a hot tub, part of on the autopsy report, his death certificate. what killed chase was the synthetic cannaboid poisoning, marijuana, the chemicals sprayed onto the leaves shut his lungs down. he suffered a violent death, he
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asphyxiated and suffocated and obviously became unconscious and i found him in the hot tub that sunday morning march 4th. >> something legal allegedly he had purchased. did you have a sense of it after talking to some of his friends he had a sense of some of the dangers of this? >> no. and none of the kids did, especially chase, he loved life too much, knowing the grief it put his family and friends through, never. >> they were being experimental as some teens are, that's the impression you got? >> uh-huh. >> you're here because this has become a mission, a mission for you, right, to try to make sure other kids don't follow in chase's footsteps. why is this so important to you? >> for us, the heartache, your heart is ripped in two. we don't want this pain to affect other families. it's a senseless death.
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a child, teenagers walk into a store thinking it's legal, thinking it's not going to hurt them. they purchase something that shouldn't be sold. we don't want the pain of what we've gone through to affect other families. we have peace and strength from god and we have that peace in our hearts and have the joy because we do know where our son is, where he will live forever. everyday it's with us the rest of our lives we don't get him back. >> what can you say to other parents so they aren't in your shoes, so they don't lose a child with so much promise? >> that this is reason we're here. from the moment that our son, we knew he passed away that morning when the paramedics came and covered him up and told us that he had passed away, we had a sense of peace about us, both of us did, because we know where
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his soul was as well as yvette and i, we know we will see him again and we have that heavenly hope. when they said he was passed, i instinctively told myself, this is wrong wrong wrong. you cannot walk into a convenience store in this country as a teenager or young adult or adult and purchase a product obviously to get high and then your lungs shut down and you suffocate. it is wrong in a pure form. it's very frustrating as a parent to know this is being sold throughout the country, not only sold in convenience stores, novelty shops to sell the product. it is a deadly product. >> part of the problem is there is a loophole where it's sold
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legally. knowing that until you can get to the point where it's not sold, what can you tell parents to -- part of it is awareness, i'm sure. also, what do they need to talk to their kids about so they understand the risks. you said chase didn't. >> it's talking to your children, grandchildren, saying, have you heard about this stuff? do you understand? think bl the -- think about the choices. as adults, we understand it and kids and teenagers think they're invincible, it can't happen us it can. look at us, we are normal and talked to our boys and our son made a mistake, made a bad choice never ever knowing this would take his life. parents and grandparents, talk about this stuff, don't shovel it under the rug, talk to the kids, make sure the kids talk to each other, do what's right. >> have an open line of communication.
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take your head out of the sand. it would be easy to ignore it and just to go away. we choose not to. we have gone from the first day after our son passed away, we went on the local affiliates in atlanta and told people what happened. our son bought it, assumed he bought it, found out he did, smoked it and he passed away. we feel that what we're trying to do with the education and awareness aspect of our mission, we're doing as much as we possibly can to help other families around the country not have to endure the pain and lose someone they love dearly. >> let's hope they don't. thank you so much for sharing this story. we'll be talking more about this story. if this can happen to someone like chase, it can happen to other young people. we appreciate your being here to talk about it. despite its sometimes deadly effects. here in georgia the use of the drug has jumped 3,000%. next, we talk about what law enforcement is doing to keep these synthetic drugs off the streets.
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we just heard from two parents who saw synthethic pot destroy their son's life. i'm joined by two people on the front lines. you both work for the bureau of investigation and ken is a gbi agent and investigates the distribution and sale of synthetic drugs. good to see you both.
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thank you for being here to educate us more about this. i actually had not heard o this. but it sounds like, is this right, ken, it's an epidemic? >> it really is. it has blown up on us in the metro atlanta area and around the nation in the past four or five years. >> we're talking thousands of percent. this is something thrust to the forefront, particularly here in atlanta but this is maybe something a lot of parents haven't even heard about? >> yes. surprisingly enough, it has flown under the radar, some wholesale manufacturers and distributors have done a god job using smoke and mirrors to conceal their activities and exactly what they're doing. it took a while for us to catch on and probably the reason it's taken while for parents. >> explain this, nelly. how is it even legal?
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first off, what is it? i googled pictures of it. some looked like potpourri and some leaves. why is it legal? doesn't seem like it should be. >> they take these man-made chemicals and spray it on the plants. the plants get laced with these chemicals, that's what's smoked. typically traditionally with drugs like cocaine and methamphetamine we outlaw those drugs and then you're done. you can take one drug, reformulate it and change it and it's legal and skirts around the law. it's science meets the law and unfortunately the law seems to be one step behind. >> it might not be something advertised to smoke, right? >> the way it's marketed -- >> if i'm a teenager, i'm going into a convenience store from my friends and maybe i can get it there? >> exactly.
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incense. if you go to the store, you don't go to jail, you skirt around the law. >> it produces an effect similar to marijuana and high similar but side effects hallucinations, seizures and addiction not normally seen in marijuana users. this is more dangerous than marijuana and is this what makes it so dangerous, these side effects? >> absolutely. we have seen reports of seizures, increasing your heart rate, kidney failure and stated earlier the gbi's chief medical examiner have confirmed two deaths in georgia smoking synthetic marijuana. >> if the law can't keep up with this, where do you go from there? is it just a matter of time until the law catches up. can it? >> i don't know.
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we've identified more than 400 synthetic marijuana compound out there. what we have seen in our investigations is that the majority of the chemicals are purchased from china and research chemical supply companies in china keep up with the law changes in the states. as soon as a couple are banded or outlawed, more are being shipped to wholesale distributors tweaked to skirt those laws. >> nothing can really be done to shut it down. >> it's frustrating. i wouldn't say nothing can be done. we're going after manufacturers and wholesalers for mislabeling and misbranding products and enforcing the laws in place when they do slip up and distribute those that have been banned. >> what can parents do knowing there aren't necessarily a lot of resources when it comes to the law at this point?
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what can parents do to make sure kids aren't getting ahold of this? >> parents need to be educated about the harmful effects. when i talked to students and go to career days and start talking about forensic science, i 0 notice the kids know far more about the drugs. than adults do and telling me things i have not seen in the lab. i say, don't be fooled by pretty packaging and labeling and appeals to the youth, graphic arts. i say easy access doesn't mean it's good for you and just because they can get it easily and say, it must be safe or wouldn't be sold in a convenience store, don't be fooled, they're trying to get rich at your expense. if you're trying to find way to have fun and experiment and fill
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some sort of void, this is not it. this it is serious, not a game. let's get you up to speed on the day's headlines. los angeles police are re-opening the investigation that got officer chris dorner fired in 2008. he has been on the run since allegedly killing three people as part of a vandetta on the lapd and stretches to los angeles prompts a task force to coordinate search efforts. first the storm, now you know what comes out, that's right, the dig-out. some parts in the northeast got off light and others got slammed with three feet of snow. tonight, more than 5,000 homes are without electricity and new englanders have a few days of work ahead before life is back to normal. ahead, spending the night in walmart in snow covered new york.
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and then it's gone. the blizzard has passed and the snow is tapering across the new england states. the big storm did more than shut down highways. some people were taken by such surprise they were stranded in the middle of shopping. this is a walmart on long island. i know you've been talking to people there.
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how many of them are camping out there tonight? >> reporter: brianna, about a dozen or so tonight. technically this walmart is closed. it closed about 6:00 p.m. yesterday. the manager opened the doors because so many people up here in suffolk county are stranded. we have one group in electronics, watching a movie. this group is calling this the walmart pileup. they've gotten their supplies and this is diana. you have your puzzle over here, your chair, your blanket. this is your second night in this walmart and you only live a couple miles away? >> that's right. >> how long were you stranded in your car? >> about three hours i was traveling. >> reporter: you tried to get out today, the roads were still blocked? >> impassable. there was a lot of prep i was doing to get my car out.
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people helped me dig out the car but the entrance is blocked with a lot of cars. >> reporter: do you hope you get out tomorrow? hope so. >> reporter: in the meantime, keeping yourself busy? >> absolutely. >> reporter: what was it like stay here last night? >> a little surreal and all our needs are met and warm and comfortable and safe. >> reporter: thank you for your time. there were about 30 people here last night. the county is saying hundreds of cars were stranded last night. these roads have just been a mess all day today. the national guard was out helping on snowmobiles. we talked to several people who stayed in their cars all night long last night just waiting for help. plows were coming in, trying to clear out these roadways.
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this area in suffolk county got more than two feet of snow. >> i'm wondering where are they actually sleeping and what food are they eating? is this stuff that's been provided by the store? >> reporter: yeah. some of it, they're buying, buying some supplies. there's plenty of supplies here. people have just kind of hanging out here, camped out. today, a number of people were out trying to dig out their cars. in the meantime, they're watching movies and passing the time because they can't get out. diana is only a couple miles away and can't get home. she is spending her second night there and mary spending her first night on long island. update us in the morning, will you? >> reporter: i will. it should be an experience. >> thanks, mary. an action hero and sometimes villain is recruiting volunteers for his gun posse. plus, the spies in the sky. drones, overseas and over your neighborhood. all stations come over to mission a for a final go.
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drones are the newest weapon of choice to track and kill suspected terrorists. this guy, john brennan is the guy who oversees the white house kill list. he was picked to run the cia. he was grilled on capitol hill. >> i think there is a misimpression on the part of some american people who believe we take strikes to punish terrorists for past
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transgressions. nothing could be further from the truth. we only take such actions as last resort to save lives when there's no other alternative to taking an action that is going to mitigate that threat. >> drones aren't just for government or even military anymore. they're now being used by police across the country to nab bad guys, even by realtors to help showcase their properties, by farmers to water and monitor their crops. almost anyone can buy one. don lemon spoke with william robinson from a company that makes drones. he brought a drone to our studio and explained how the increase may affect you. >> this is called the horn of mine crow. uses a gps guidance and can navigate through the airspace providing realtime video. it's a really nice compact platform easily packed in the trunk of a police car. if the police agency wants to mitigate danger, they can use it. >> you're looking at that video
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coming from this drone. the concern is that because police departments are using it around the country cops or authorities, big brother will be able to peer into your home and maybe even your neighbor if you want too checkup on your husband and wife. can anybody go on your website and get one of these? >> not just any. it does require approvals and there are laws that prevent people from spying on one another. this vehicle itself is a useful tool for law enforcement and in serving warrants. it is a safety tool, not for spying and over individual's private property. >> i have to tell you, this is really cool. don't freak out, i'm stepping out of the light. oh, my gosh. what are the limitations? you can't say, i want to get one of these and worried my wife may be cheating on me. you can't do that, right? >> no.
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currently there are laws in place where you can fly them like mesa county and colorado. >> but the concerns -- tell me about mesa. >> mesa county has a low density area and they are using them for crime scene investigations and surveying. >> you said any who is a u.s. citizen can buy one of these, correct? >> that's correct. >> so, of course, the concern is about abuse, just because you're not supposed to use it for that doesn't mean you aren't. you're selling it and you have -- >> there is no difference of someone parking a van and videotaping out the window. it is just another platform. >> after the newtown tragic,
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we've got to tell you about a simulated school shooting today, part of a training exercise in arizona. it included actor steven seagal.
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maybe you haven't seen him for a while. that's where he was. he was brought in by sheriff joe arpaio and also does weight really matter? and we'll look at whether too much attention is paid to new jersey governor chris christie's weight. we'll talk about both stories with dean obeidallah who's joining us from new york. >> how are you? >> first off, let's talk about this steven seagal thing. he led sheriff joe arpaio's volunteer posse in a training today. this included about two dozen high school students. they were playing roles in what's called a simulated school shooting. that's interesting. you could see how maybe it would help. but with this country in the grip of a gun debate, what do you make of this? it's kind of weird that steven seagal is part of this, no? >> i think it's great to get all the former wash-up action stars back to work. gets chuck norris in there maybe
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jean-claude van damme. "expendables 3." it makes no sense whatsoever. but if i had a child in a school and an armed security guard, might make me feel a little bit better. but that should be a full-time trained professional not a posse of people who manage at applebee's in the day and carry a gun in the afternoon. it's tough in the moment of shooting not to hurt bystanders. >> can we look at the video again of steven seagal talking because i'm looking at this -- the sound isn't even up. and i have to tell you, he's kind of scaring the hell out of me. he's a pretty scary dude right here, the way he's talking, just so intensely to these kids, right? >> he looks like he's maybe in a "zero dark thirty" extra mode. i think they should do a reality show about him training the people. could be a fun thing for people.
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>> i have to get to this because i really want to hear what you have to say about this. the new jersey governor appeared on the letterman show, set off a chain reaction. listen to what he said on "letterman." >> i've made jokes about you -- not just one or two, not just on going here and there, intermittent, but -- >> i didn't know this was going to be this long. >> so, dean, you actually said, why are well-known journalists talking about him being, quote, too fat to be president? is he too overweight, suggesting that no one seems to be talking about his record and the issues? tell me more about that. you think they should be talking about the issues because we talked to a doctor who said the weight's a foundational issue if you're going to be, say, vice president or president.
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>> two things, first of all, the way chris christie dealt with the issue about people making jokes about his weight, he laughed it off, ate a doughnut. donald trump, if you are watching, that is what you do. not like he is suing bill maher. but his record as governor is much more important. no one's talked about new jersey's unemployment rate. not just his weight. in the weight discussion, journalists and not you but maybe people you know talk about his record as well. it's a component of why we're going to vote for him or not vote for him, not just if he's too fat or not. >> that's an interesting point. dean obeidallah, thank you, always a pleasure to be with you. >> thank you. think just getting rid of dark spots
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